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« Reply #90 on: February 01, 2010, 01:28:07 PM » |
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It's funny how many times and in how many ways Andrea Mitchell said, "Haiti is not accepting new applicants for adoption." I found a very reasonable comment, and then saw that it was Malinda's! I'm an adoptive mom and I completely support Haiti's decision to stop all adoptions that haven't already been approved. Adoption isn't about "saving" children, it's about building a family. If seeing Haitian orphans on TV is making you think adoption for the first time, then you are likely letting child-saving emotions rule you, and that's a bad place to start an adoption.
And Ms. Mitchell, you keep phrasing your answers about the current bar on Haitian adoptions as "unfortunate." It isn't unfortunate at all -- it is the right policy for Haitian families and children. |
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mseymore
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« Reply #91 on: February 01, 2010, 01:58:51 PM » |
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Shari -- I'm glad I came across as "reasonable!" I was actually kind of pissed that she kept saying "unfortunately!" LOL!
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shari
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« Reply #92 on: February 01, 2010, 02:07:42 PM » |
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Shari -- I'm glad I came across as "reasonable!" I was actually kind of pissed that she kept saying "unfortunately!" LOL!
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Haha, it was more than reasonable, but I find myself thesaurus-less ;)  See, that's why we need you on here, Malinda!! |
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kantmakm
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« Reply #93 on: February 01, 2010, 05:20:06 PM » |
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Spanish scientists cooperate to fight against child trafficking in Haitihttp://www.dna-prokids.org/?p=888
The project called DNA-Prokids in Haiti will enable to initially take 6.000 samples of genetic data from adults who have reported missing children, immediate relatives with blood relationship, and from children with no family or doubtful relatives. The aim is to deter human trafficking of children and help reunite abducted and homeless children with their parents after the devastating earthquake, a problem which UNICEF and other organizations are warning of.
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kms
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« Reply #96 on: February 02, 2010, 02:06:46 PM » |
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Glad they were caught. They don't exactly appear to me to be missionaries. I feel bad for the daughter just 18 caught up in this. Why wouldn't she trust her mother that their actions were on the up and up? Their lawyer is complaining about their conditions. Oh pa lease.. Cry me a river. I hoped in the beginning it was just some not bright folks who flew to Haiti to help (get in the way) after the earthquake. But with the few steps they started to take, smells fishy. If they really wanted to help send their airfare to Doctor's without Borders and get out of the way. Actions like this and the fear of more is what stalled the proper transfer of already adopted children in the midst of the lengthy immigration process airlifts and the ones for medical aid. As far as I'm concerned they could very well have indirectly cost people their lives so throw the book at them. Kristine |
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kantmakm
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« Reply #97 on: February 02, 2010, 03:19:09 PM » |
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http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/02/01/american-arrests-adoptions.html
Elizabeth Bartholet, a Harvard law professor who supports expanded international adoption, expressed concern about a possible overreaction to the arrests.
"If not all their paperwork was together, that doesn't seem to me the worst crime in the world," she said. "The Haitian authorities should be trying to help a lot of kids get out — both the kids in the process of adoption and others who appear not to have parents or relatives able to take care of them.
"It is astoundingly hypocritical that people, in the name of helping children, would close down adoption," she said.
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kantmakm
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« Reply #98 on: February 02, 2010, 05:46:12 PM » |
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703422904575039761361995340.html
Haiti resumed allowing orphans already in the adoption pipeline to leave the country, as it continued its child-trafficking investigation of 10 American missionaries arrested Friday for allegedly attempting to ferry 33 children out of the country.
In an email to the United Nations on Monday, an American human-rights activist recounted meeting the leader of the missionaries before they entered Haiti and warning that the group's plan to collect 100 Haitian orphans was illegal because they lacked proper authorization.
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kantmakm
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« Reply #99 on: February 03, 2010, 06:16:22 PM » |
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kantmakm
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« Reply #100 on: February 04, 2010, 04:02:26 PM » |
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Looks as though they will be tried in Haiti: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100204/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_haiti_americans_detained
Each kidnapping count carries a possible sentence of five to 15 years in prison. Each criminal association count has a potential sentence of three to nine years.
So lets see... 33 kids * 3 years (if lightest possible sentence is given) = 99 years in a haitian prison. |
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mlschot
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« Reply #101 on: February 04, 2010, 04:16:29 PM » |
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what further strikes me as odd, thinking about this case, is that if you have read anything at all about the tense relations between the DR and Haiti, you would definitely have 2nd thoughts about taking the children to the DR if you were truly operating on a solely altruistic basis...and further, that parents would voluntarily give their children to go live in the DR when they had to know the bad mojo between the 2 countries. that part i just don't get. but remember, they've been charged, but not convicted. my hunch is that there will be some political maneuvering (or quasi-political like Bill Clinton in N. Korea) and somehow they will be allowed to return to the states. only time will tell. |
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kms
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« Reply #102 on: February 04, 2010, 05:38:24 PM » |
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Reports indicate they lied about their being orphans and said they didn't have parents. Then they say they got the permission of parents. Reports indicate they were told not to ahead of time and they did anyway. My guess is it wasn't God that told them to do this, but the other guy.  The political maneuvering better be the US tries them and incarcerates them in an actual prison somewhere. Maybe that tent prison in the SW?  They want to be martyrs, let's give them something to moan about. Wary as to how the barely adult children and nanny should be treated. Ah, to be Solomon! Thankfully I'm not a judge. Kristine |
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hikinglorax
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« Reply #103 on: February 05, 2010, 06:34:27 PM » |
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My guess is it wasn't God that told them to do this, but the other guy. Or the other "other guy"- the almighty dollar |
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kantmakm
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« Reply #104 on: February 23, 2010, 04:14:52 PM » |
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Haiti Bars 6 Children From Leaving for U.S.http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703494404575082011929105080.html?mod=WSJ_latestheadlines
A U.S. government official confirmed that the six children, who had been assigned to American adoptive families before the devastating Jan. 12 earthquake in Haiti, had all their paperwork in order, including travel permission from the Haitian prime minister. However, "the Haitian authorities didn't believe or trust the prime minister's signature was authentic," the U.S. official said.
Uggh. If these children have paperwork, they should be out of there!
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